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Amlux wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 7:55 am

AsaFromNasa wrote: Sun Jun 21, 2026 6:17 pm

I can enjoy basically all genres of music but this shit filters me so hard. I listened to one of the albums from your top ten per year thing and it sounded like a bunch of seals dying. I like weird atonal and experimental music but that was too much for me. I feel like you sort of broadly lock in your music taste in highschool and then stick with it for the rest of your life, so my hopes of ever getting into this music is pretty slim i think.

Edit: i did not mean for this to come off as harshly as it did but I'm sure you're used to this kind of reaction haha. Are there any beginner albums you'd recommend?

Lol, no need to apologize. I think what you say about high school is interesting and true to some extent. I just happened to listen to a LOT of extreme and crazy shit in high school. For me, I just love extreme metal for a lot of reasons. What's interesting is that I actually see a lot of parallels between my love of metal and of otaku culture. I like it precisely when it's the most repulsive and uncompromising to outsiders. So when it's an anime/manga, I want all the shit that normies hate and get embarrassed by. Give me all the fucking pantsu shots and harems and chuunibyou powers and so on! Of course, there's something effervescent about this where you get the sense that there's real authenticity behind it versus when you feel it's hollow, and it's the same in metal. But at it's best it should cause precisely your very reaction IMO, haha.

That said, the most extreme music I ever was into wasn't even metal but was harsh noise, especially the Japanese stuff like Incapacitants, C.C.C.C., Hijoukaidan, Merzbow, Masonna, Astro, and the like. In fact, my username itself is from a Merzbow album. However, I have a lot of trouble listening to it as much these days. I have to be in the right mood and usually I find it somewhat hard to latch onto anything in even when my ears don't find it painful. But I still respect it very much for the degree of uncompromising extremity and balls it takes to make music this far removed from "music" as most understand it:



As for your last question about beginner albums... well, I've never been a metal "evangelist." I always find these people who have to get everyone else into their hobby to be weird and usually to not be the kind of people you want into a hobby because they seem to do it out of a sense of insecurity and thus are more likely to try to bring normalfags into the fold. So my first response is always "If it's not for you, that's fine. Listen to what you like." But if you are interested, these are some albums I listened to that really made me appreciate black metal and death metal. They're pretty classic oldies, but that's often the best place to start:



Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness (1989)
This is like the platonic ideal of old school death metal. A lot of people would point to the band Death instead (obviously, look at their name haha). But I think the first three Morbid Angel albums shit all over even Death's best work, and I like Death quite a bit.



Atheist - Unquestionable Presence (1991)
Some people who have trouble with the death metal mainstays like Atheist better, but their direction is weirder and more off-beat, with a heavy jazz influence that makes it almost whimsical and dreamy as opposed to pure evil.



Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark (1987)
One of the all-time classics, from a time when black metal was still not that distinct from thrash and was a lot more sloppy and messy and RAWKish. Blood Fire Death is an album that might be even easier on the ears as it's more epic and melodic (I like it more too), but this one is nastier and more representative of the genre as a whole.



Gorgoroth - Pentagram (1994)
If you truly hate this album, I'm afraid you just might never quite like black metal as a genre unfortunately. It doesn't mean it's the best BM album ever (it's not my favorite), but it's about as archetypal as it gets.



Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (1994)
Well, it's one of the most important bands for the history of the genre and this is the album with the most amazing lineup and thus definitely their magnum opus. Euronymous and Varg on the same album, for fuck's sake! And many who are turned off by the more ear-piercing shrieks of black metal might enjoy Attila Csihar's strange growly vocals more.

I could have suggested more poppy/rocky stuff, which there are certainly many good examples of, not to mention all the more classic heavy/thrash, but I figure those might be easier choices. I wanted to give stuff that really falls in the "extremes" of the genres we're talking about.

I'm also curious what album sounded like seals dying, lmao. It just makes me think of one of the most sick fucking slam death albums in the past 10 years or so, Deformity of Human Consciousness (2017) by The Dark Prison Massacre, because the cover is... well, this:


This track is fucking amazing and I can't listen to it without headbanging. DO NOT LISTEN IF YOU COULDN'T HANDLE CRYPTOPSY, THIS WILL CRUSH YOUR SKULL!!! Though I can't lie, I'd be amused by your reaction haha.

What's interesting is that I actually see a lot of parallels between my love of metal and of otaku culture. I like it precisely when it's the most repulsive and uncompromising to outsiders.

That said, the most extreme music I ever was into wasn't even metal but was harsh noise

As for your last question about beginner albums... well, I've never been a metal "evangelist." I always find these people who have to get everyone else into their hobby to be weird and usually to not be the kind of people you want into a hobby because they seem to do it out of a sense of insecurity and thus are more likely to try to bring normalfags into the fold. So my first response is always "If it's not for you, that's fine. Listen to what you like."

Deformity of Human Consciousness (2017) by The Dark Prison Massacre

Thricegreat wrote: Tue Jun 23, 2026 2:42 am

Amlux wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:06 pm

Anyway, another band I love to shill is デスマーチ艦隊 [Death March Kantai], which is kind of like punk-inspired visual kei but with a heavy retro WWII military aesthetic (lots of military march melodies). Fans of eroguro stuff that uses a lot of Shouwa military imagery will probably like it:

I see why you recommended it. I quite agree with that.

Genres are very different, but this is the military music I like the most.

AsaFromNasa wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2026 2:26 am

I'm a white midwesterner who was raised catholic but a while ago i started listening to nasheeds after learning of the 72 virgin wives pious Muslim warriors are entitled to in Jannah. I did this in hope that Allah would kindle my heart so i could access my harem in the afterlife. Such hopes have since been dashed (SO PISS OFF, GLOWIES), and I have have learned of the benefits virgin men get in the Christian heaven, so I've returned my pascals wager to Catholicism. The experience has left me with an appreciation of the music new cultures though!


Also have you heard this popular NK banger yet?

Amlux wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2026 9:06 pm

Anyway, another band I love to shill is デスマーチ艦隊 [Death March Kantai], which is kind of like punk-inspired visual kei but with a heavy retro WWII military aesthetic (lots of military march melodies). Fans of eroguro stuff that uses a lot of Shouwa military imagery will probably like it: